So this is the third completion of the episode ‘illogicality of Muslims’. Ahmadis like to throw that around a lot. Without me even having to defend Muslims for their seemingly ‘illogical’ beliefs, I only used Mirza and the all-time MTA star Jahangeer to expose the double standards and failures in this claim. While they so foolishly mocked our belief in the Jinn, Mirza Tahir shut them up with his story of the jinn changing the blade of his razor. And while they mocked our illogical belief in the splitting of the moon, I showed them the scientific proof as explained by Mirza Ghulam, i.e. animals living on the sun and moon.
So if you hear an Ahmadi try and play the logic card game. Be sure to navigate them here.
I would like to add my own content, but since Hani Tahir is smashing this thing, I thought I’ll use his material again to show the fairy tales MGA believed in. Hani Tahir had four episodes on the fairy tale beliefs of Mirza, but this one is the best one I’ve come across.
Without further ado, here is Mirza Ghulam Ahmad and his enlightened approach to science and religion.
The time of the Prophet, peace be upon him….. is the fifth millennium. It follows the Mars effect, this is the secret that lies in the fact that the Prophet, peace be upon him had ordered the killing of mischief makers who killed Muslims and wanted to eliminate them and were determined to exterminate them. And this is the effect of Mars by the order and permission of Allah…….The greater transfiguration and the fullest and most complete in the second coming of the prophet Muhammad (sas) is the transfiguration of the name ‘Ahmad’ only, because the second coming is predicted in the late sixth millennial. And the relationship of the six millennial is with Jupiter, and is the sixth from the saying ‘khunnas al kunnas’ (Arabic term), and this relationship (Jupiter) prohibits the messengers from shedding blood. And it develops the mind, intelligence…..
I think this passage sums up Mirza better than anything. He uses fairy tales, history, hadith, Quran, and his own mischievous ways to feed his big fat ugly ego of narcissism. What an absolute disgrace!
So in that, he says he’s the second coming of our nabi Muhammad (sas). He adds that his coming will be far greater and would be the most complete. He also explains how the battles that took place at the time of Muhammad (sas) like Badr and Uhud are due to the impact of Mars. And he finishes it off by saying jihad was made prohibited on him because of the relationship with Jupiter and Allah. A’othu billah min ashaytan arrajeem
What is going on? What the hell is going on here?
Don’t worry though. Mirza has more logic up his sleeve. Let’s see what he says here
There is another thing about these verses; what is the meaning of the words of the angels of God Almighty: ‘you will make the mischief maker a Khalifa?’ So it is clear that the truth is that Allah while creating the seven heavens in the sixth day, and he willed and proportioned every heaven, and the sixth day was near and close to its end- which is the day of the star of the biggest happiness, i.e Jupiter. And the angles noted who were given knowledge of happiness and misfortune. They noted from the evidence of the verse ‘and inspired in each heaven its command’, and they had known the biggest happiness came from Jupiter, they saw Adam (AS) did not find a share of this day, as few remained of the day. So they thought the creation of Adam was going to be in Saturn, and his fitra (nature) will be deposited out of Saturn influences of oppression, suffering and others. And from this will result many tribulations, and the objection was only made out of supposition and not certainty. So they objected upon conjecture and said ‘Will you place upon it one who causes corruption therein and sheds blood?’ And they thought of themselves as ascetic and servants and sanctified and incapable of sins….So Allah said to them ‘I know that which you don’t know’, that is, you do not know when I will create Adam (Tuhfa Golarwiya 1900)
And the story goes on and on and on. I will leave you with this for now. It’s interesting to note that he believed Allah created everything in a week. And the week days being Saturday, Sunday and so on. He also seems to believe that the planets Jupiter, Mars and so on are the only planets present in the entire solar system. So he might be onto something here. He’s being both philosophical and a mystic. Explaining that happiness came from Jupiter as philosophy, and a mystic because he made up that story.
But it’s fascinating to know where this guy gets his info from. In my previous blog about him believing animals inhabit the sun, an Ahmadi raised up an important point, and that was that this particular belief was held by some Hindus. So this whole episode to do with happiness being in Jupiter and oppression being from Saturn is something he picked up from the Hindus who he so vehemently attacked.
So, is this enough for illogicality? or are you still waiting for more wisdom from the Mirza family?
But I have one important notice to give to Ahmadis.
I apologise if my blog hurt any Ahamdi. My intention of opining this blog was not to troll around and insult Ahmadis. The blog I had ‘my thoughts on Jalsa Salana’ was fairly harsh, but that’s because I wrote it when I was at the start of this blog, and I was half asleep at the time as well. It got over six hundred reads, so it signifies that Ahmadis were hurt by my language in there, even calling it filthy. Once again, I apologise if I caused unnecessary hurt to anyone. I only speak like this because not long ago I was part of this community, so for me to casually say things like this is truly out of concern for the individuals who I loved and still would be best friends with without this barrier between us. But I had Ahmadis who were hurt just because I said ‘bunch of Punjabis’ and ‘cult’. I mean, what do you expect me to say? It’s not like Ahmadis are going to give you a box of chocolates when you decide to leave Ahmadiyyat, it’s not like they’re going to give you a big comfy hug and wish you the best of luck on your new journey. I can’t treat you guys like babies here when you are clearly on falsehood, when you are being lied to on mass scale, and when you pay your attention, and put your effort and money on something so feeble. I hope my blog did not deter any Ahmadi from reading what I have to say. I say this with true sincerity, I only want the best for you. And outside of this blog, I’m not an anti-Ahmadi freak who’s obsessed with Ahmadiyyat.
At the end of the day, life is a struggle and a test. And the best are those who face those challenges with an open heart, and when the decision comes, the heart is courageous enough to fight off any cowardly and weak inclinations.